Professor Coldheart ([info]perich) wrote,
@ 2008-01-24 13:50:00
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cash rules everything around me
So I was sitting on the roof of the Temple, cooling my heels and drinking an Ecto Cooler Hi-C, when the devil appeared behind me.

"Hey Satan," I said.

"Hey [info]perich," he said, sitting down next to me. He kicked his feet over the side.

"I guess you've heard that shit's pretty bad, what with the collapse of subprime mortgages ... banks writing off tens of billions in revenue ... people losing their homes ..."

"But I'm guessing you have a plan, right?"

"Hear me out," he said, gesturing animatedly. "First, we lower the Fed funds rate by 1.5% - half at an emergency meeting, half during a scheduled meeting. This'll encourage people to take out loans and buy more stuff, because interest rates will be lower."

"It'll also discourage people from saving," I said, "because, like you said, interest rates will be lower."

"But that's the beauty of it!" He smacked me on the shoulder with a rolled-up copy of Variety. "The Fed funds rate is also the rate at which banks can lend money to each other. So if a bank wants to write a loan but doesn't have the cash available, they can borrow money from another bank!"

I sighed and bit my lip. "Is there a second part?"

"Are you ready?"

I nodded and put on my best expectant look.

The devil stood up, spreading his hands dramatically. "We're going to give every American taxpayer ... three hundred dollars!" He waited for my applause.

"And?" I asked.

He snorted. "It's like you never even studied economics, man! Increased consumer spending will jumpstart the economy!"

"How?"

"You know ... give it a jolt." He could see I wasn't buying it and his face fell.

"What exactly is wrong with the economy currently?" I asked.

He didn't have an answer, so I told him: "Let's say you're playing blackjack with a seven-deck shoe. You're counting cards and you're pretty good at it, so you think that the dealer's all out of face low* cards. You start putting more and more money on the table. With me so far?"

"Sure," said Lucifer. "I love Vegas."

"But maybe your count was off, or you were misinformed and there's actually eight or nine decks in play. So there are more face low* cards than you expected. You start losing money."

"I don't like this story."

"And now other players are walking away from the table, meaning all the bad cards are coming to you now. You start busting on every hand. You keep doubling your bet, because you heard from some guy that that was a good way to stay ahead, but that just means you're hemorrhaging money that much faster.

"Now," I concluded, "instead of face low* cards, it's 'housing prices.' Instead of hands of blackjack, it's 'investment in mortgage-based securities.' And the players at the table are the largest financial institutions in the country - Wachovia, Merrill Lynch, Bank of America, etc."

"No, no, it's not that simple."

"No, it's exactly that simple. Investors gambled that mortgage-based securities would keep paying off. This was a speculation based on the notion that housing prices would keep rising. They didn't. Investors kept shoveling money into subprime funds in the hopes that they'd rebound, or that they could sell them to someone else. They couldn't.

"And what part of this whole exchange," I concluded, "would be improved by consumers getting the equivalent of an additional paycheck?"

"But ... but ... consumer spending ..." the devil whined.

"The money's coming in the form of additional tax refunds," I said. "Meaning it's being transferred from the federal government to citizens. What would the feds have done with that money if they kept it?"

"Spent it."

"What are they hoping citizens will do with it?"

"Spend it."

"So either the feds spend one hundred billion dollars," I continued, doing some quick math in my head, "on highways and dams and bomber jets and bridges that don't go anywhere, or consumers spend one hundred billion dollars on food and clothing and cars and the Nintendo Wii. Where's the 'jumpstart' here? Where's the kick in the pants?"

"Yeah, but, c'mon!" The devil smiled, laughing weakly and dismissing my objections with a wave. "We're putting money back into people's hands, rather than letting the government spend it. I thought you were a libertarian! You know: 'taxation is theft' and all that.

"That's a question of what level of taxation is moral," I said. "That's irrelevant. This is a question of what's actually going to happen. It's like ... it's like debating whether or not to kill someone by dropping a weight on their head, vs. debating whether or not gravity is real."

"So you're telling me the economic stimulus won't have any effect on net?"

"I didn't say that. The federal government is now one hundred billion dollars out of pocket. Do you really think Congress will cut the U.S. government's budget by one hundred billion dollars? Or any significant fraction of that?"

"So the U.S. government goes another hundred billion into debt," Satan said.

"Which means inflation," I said.

"And lower interest rates mean easier credit and more loans."

"Which means inflation."

"I don't suppose inflation's good for the economy, is it?"

"Inflation encourages borrowing and penalizes saving," I said. "What's the point of putting money in a 401(k) that earns 7% if prices inflate 8% every year? Better to just buy a car, or a house, or something I can actually wrap my hands around and enjoy. Better to go into debt; the money I put toward interest payments will be worth less and less each year."

"But everyone's buying stuff!" Satan said, making one last-ditch effort. "And that stimulates demand, so people will start producing more ..."

"So if I'm the Gap, and I see people spending their refund checks on my sweaters, I order up a thousand more sweaters than expected. Then what? People already spent their refund. I've got all these sweaters I intended to sell at $40, which I now have to mark down to $30 in order to sell. And since the thirty dollars a new customer pays for a sweater don't go as far, thanks to inflation, I'm now worse off than before."

The devil pouted, tracing doodles in the dust on the rooftop with his finger. Then he stood up. "Well, I tried."

"No, definitely. Yeoman's effort."

"Same time next week?"

"I'll be here."

"Could you bring me an Ecto-Cooler Hi-C next time?"

"Apage, satanas," I scowled.

He laughed. "I get that a lot."

* * *

"Consumer spending" is a popular target for federal efforts because it ties directly to GDP, one of the most commonly cited statistics. More people spend money, businesses presume that there's an increased demand for their products, and they start to produce more.

However, consumer spending is only part of the picture. The opposite side is consumer saving - individuals sinking money into savings accounts, money market accounts, the stock market and retirement funds. Investment also gets businesses to produce more.

The moral of this story: the economy is not a thermostat - it's a thermometer. What we call "the economy" is an agglomeration of several favored statistics - the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the strength of the dollar, GDP per capita, inflation, unemployment, etc. If "the economy is doing well," that means those numbers are high. If "the economy is doing poorly," those numbers are low. But those are all statistics. They're numbers that measure the performance of people and firms in the real world. I can't just dial up one statistic without affecting everyone in the real world, anymore than I could crank up the thermostat without also increasing the amount of oil I consume.

Those are numbers on paper. This is the real world. And unless you see a pronounced change in the real world, there's no reason to think changing the numbers will make a difference.
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* [info]phanatic pointed out that I had this exactly backward in the original draft - high cards in the deck favor the player, not the dealer.




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[info]manley1
2008-01-24 07:01 pm UTC (link)
We should also invest in tech stocks! On MARGIN!

Oh, oh, and junk bonds! And let's just borrow the equity on our houses purchased with our sub-prime loans.

Isn't that the way to go?

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:03 pm UTC (link)
And if we leverage our returns on those stocks into overseas currency, we can't lose!

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[info]thetathx1138
2008-01-24 07:04 pm UTC (link)
Yep, pretty much.

I think the irony, though, is instead of spending those checks, a lot of consumers are either going to sit on them or use them to pay off debt. I know if a $600 check showed up tomorrow, I wouldn't be saying "WOO HOO! XBox 360 time!" I'd be saying "WOO HOO! That's a good chunk of my more annoying debt GONE!"

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:04 pm UTC (link)
So essentially, the federal government is assuming citizens' debt.

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(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:08 pm UTC

[info]androidqueen
2008-01-24 07:05 pm UTC (link)
Ok, cool, so it's okay for me to just invest my stimulus.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:06 pm UTC (link)
If you're asking me what's best for you, Mary Maitland, personally, I can't possibly answer that.

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[info]thetathx1138
2008-01-24 08:51 pm UTC (link)

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[info]vlvtjones
2008-01-24 07:18 pm UTC (link)
I think I'll buy an illegal exotic pet with my $300.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:06 pm UTC (link)
The racist Burmese cocaine snake!

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(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vlvtjones, 2008-01-24 08:25 pm UTC

[info]eyelid
2008-01-24 07:24 pm UTC (link)
Additionally, the money consumers spend tends not to go to American-made goods anymore. Even if the additional money spent on Gap sweaters made a difference in the economy, it will just go to China, wherein the sweaters are made.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, but those dollars don't do the Chinese any good unless they invest them or spend them in the U.S. Or they can just sit on them (as they're doing currently).

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(no subject) - [info]eyelid, 2008-01-24 08:16 pm UTC

[info]uncacreamy
2008-01-24 07:40 pm UTC (link)
You actually make this stuff make sense to me. Awesome.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Thanky. That's what I aim for.

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[info]says_bomb
2008-01-24 07:41 pm UTC (link)
My post on this subject just would have read "This is so fucking stupid I can't believe it" with no more explanation. Now I can go post that and just link here, so thanks!

Let's all pray that people do just put their "stimulus" into reducing their debt. It won't help the quote-unquote-economy but it won't increase inflation. But people just aren't that smart in large groups.

Sigh. And once again, the baby boomers sell out the rest of us so they can have enough time to cash out their portfolios. We need to start a "don't elect anyone born before 1960" movement.

I guess the upside is, I get to laugh at all the people who wanted to privatize social security. (Even if they're still laughing at me because I'm ignoring what the government's credit rating ought to be.)

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[info]thetathx1138
2008-01-24 08:05 pm UTC (link)
And once again, the baby boomers sell out the rest of us so they can have enough time to cash out their portfolios.

One of my social theories is that we're going to see one of the ugliest social problems over the Boomers, aside from the apotheosis of their bad side driving the country into the ground right now.

It may be hard to believe, but our nation has a real job problem right now, and that problem is: we've got plenty of well-paying jobs in certain sectors (namely healthcare and IT), and absolutely NO capability to fill them.

Between idiotic immigration laws (thanks, Republicans) and idiotic protectionist laws (thanks, Democrats), companies literally can't get the bodies they need in these areas. This is why somebody with a comp-sci bachelor's is a hot commodity hiring-wise right now, and why if you play your cards right you'll get a free ride through nursing school.

So what happens when 2011 rolls around, Boomers start retiring like flies, and suddenly mediocre sectors become bad and bad sectors become nightmares?

A lot of things, none of them good.

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(no subject) - [info]says_bomb, 2008-01-24 08:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]throwdownartist, 2008-01-24 09:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 09:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 08:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 08:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]throwdownartist, 2008-01-24 09:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 09:12 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 09:20 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 08:42 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]thetathx1138, 2008-01-24 08:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]flynngrrl, 2008-01-24 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]says_bomb, 2008-01-24 09:49 pm UTC

[info]pasquin
2008-01-24 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Accessible and entertaining. You could be the Carl Sagan of economics.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:11 pm UTC (link)
You mean dead, or threatening to anthrax the Urals? Or just sporting an awesome jacket?

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(no subject) - [info]pasquin, 2008-01-24 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 08:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pasquin, 2008-01-24 08:40 pm UTC

[info]incontango
2008-01-24 07:48 pm UTC (link)
I know it's not your fault, but these economic meetings of yours scare me.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:11 pm UTC (link)
These people keep seeking me out, man.

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(no subject) - [info]eruv, 2008-01-24 08:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 08:55 pm UTC

[info]kpht
2008-01-24 07:59 pm UTC (link)
OK good, someone other than me took a look at the news and said "Oh my good christ, this is the most retarded thing they could have done."

Incidentally, I'll be spending my $600 in Canada.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:13 pm UTC (link)
Everything they do is the most retarded thing they could have done. We're approaching the infinite part of the curve.

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(no subject) - [info]kpht, 2008-01-24 09:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]perich, 2008-01-24 09:14 pm UTC

[info]phanatic
2008-01-24 08:02 pm UTC (link)
You're good with economics, but I wouldn't recommend you play blackjack if you're in Vegas. A higher ratio of high cards to low cards is an advantage to the player; player doesn't have to hit on 16, the dealer does. If you think the high card count is low, you should be betting less than if you think it's high.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:14 pm UTC (link)
d'oh!

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[info]grenacia
2008-01-24 08:49 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for this great accessible explanatory post. I linked to it and eyelid's post in my journal.

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 08:56 pm UTC (link)
w00t! Glad it did something for you.

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(no subject) - [info]grenacia, 2008-01-24 09:00 pm UTC

[info]lilyforthewin
2008-01-24 09:16 pm UTC (link)
I came to this post via [info]eyelid - thank you for writing this! It made a lot of sense, very informative!

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[info]perich
2008-01-24 09:20 pm UTC (link)
Awesome! Glad it did something for you.

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[info]ikilled007
2008-01-24 09:28 pm UTC (link)
Did Satan mention the Plunge Protection Team?

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[info]flynngrrl
2008-01-24 09:31 pm UTC (link)
Inspired by Liberal Fascism and it's bookish ilk, I will now perform the famous Dance of the Swan's Right Wing:

(leaps)

You know who's Satan?

(turns around)

You are! Neener neener!

(bows)

...

This is an awesome post. In a completely opposite way to my assertion above, to whit, that you are Satan, there is only ONE other person in HISTORY who brilliantly used personified parables to explain complex concepts: Plato.

Plato is the opposite of Satan and vice versa. He is goodness and light and hetersexual vigor, whereas Satan is bad and never involved with light and a double-gay dominatrix who likes to do it with underage girl monkeys. Plato is also the only person who used parables. Like the parable of the cave, and the parable of the guy who asks Socrates a question only to find out that he was wrong later on. And I think there was one about a bird.

Hang in there, man. It's tough to be one of those liberals that's always hating on big government and it's bright eyed, idealistic plans for us all, but you'll soon have your day in court. I hope you will, anyway. It will depend greatly on the make-up of the Supreme Court on the day in question.

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otherwise enjoyable
[info]sparkgrrl658
2008-01-24 09:31 pm UTC (link)
i can't believe you got that song stuck in my head for the nth time.

dammit.

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Re: otherwise enjoyable
[info]perich
2008-01-24 09:48 pm UTC (link)
I live in your HEAD.

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Re: otherwise enjoyable - [info]sparkgrrl658, 2008-01-24 09:50 pm UTC

[info]whip_lash
2008-01-25 01:26 am UTC (link)
"We're going to give every American taxpayer ... three hundred dollars!"

Satan thinks small. CNN tells me it'll be 600 per person plus 300 per kid. Whip_Lash is getting a new laptop on Uncle Sam. Well, on my money that Uncle Sam borrowed interest-free, anyway.

I do think it's funny when libertarians bitch about tax refunds. Not that I don't agree with your point, but you know, irony.

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[info]perich
2008-01-25 04:25 am UTC (link)
Hey, I do not personally object to $600. That's the difference between macro and micro.

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[info]shawnj
2008-01-25 04:44 am UTC (link)
I... completely agree with you. That money could have been targeted to spur innovation and fulfill policy instead is going to spent on cheap plastic shit, credit card debt, entertainment, and the black market.

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[info]duckalmighty
2008-01-25 06:06 am UTC (link)
I'm always in favor of tax money going back to taxpayers, for practical and moral reasons. That said, handing me back a little of my money with the implied directive to go forth and spend it for the good of my country is pretty fucking weak. And you nail it; when/if I get my rebate, I'll apply it to debt -- though, my debt is a fixed rate, decent interest mortgage, not 4 maxed-out credit cards and a subprime.

Anyway, spot on from you with this post. After all the bad lending, bad borrowing, etc., the economy needs to just slide through the icy patch on the road ahead to get back in line. This "stimulus" will more likely be like gunning the accelerator, with a potentially far worse result at the end. (Can you guess how the weather was for me today? :-D>)

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[info]perich
2008-01-25 12:41 pm UTC (link)
(Worse than mine; we've ducked both of the last 2 snow showers predicted to come our way)

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[info]splatterbone
2008-01-25 05:40 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm, if you do some basic algebra on the GDP formula... carry the net exports...

If the government had just spent the stimulus on a bridge to nowhere or a space shuttle, GDP would have increased by the exact amount of the stimulus.

The only way this plan is going to lead even an equal increase in GDP is if our exports increase by at least TWICE our increased imports PLUS whatever amount that the smartest of us will decide to save.

X >= 2M + S
(Imagine little deltas in front of those variables. Oh, and I can show my work if you'd like, Prof.)

I know the dollar is weak, but come on!

Fiscal policy is for suckers.

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[info]splatterbone
2008-01-25 05:43 pm UTC (link)
And as a note: as you mentioned, GDP (and other statistics) is not a measure of standard of living. It can only be used as a proxy for standard of living (and even then, not a very good one).

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